Universe Age?
- HouseFire
- Jun 12, 2023
- 14 min read
Light travels slower in dense areas?
Light travels faster in less dense areas?
Light is constant speed always?
Light can bend by gravitational forces no matter how big the force?
The simple fact that if such mass is able to bend space, light will curve around it accordingly to the distance from it.
The stary sky we see is a lie cause Light was bent thru the entire distant traveled in so many different ways?
On this same thought process, time moves at different lengths depending on the speed which you are moving. The universe is spinning at "X" amount, and each galaxy and solar system and planetary objects also spin at "X" amount to which all effect how time moves for each object regardless of size.
How are we to know the time for just our solar system if we are on the moon or Mars etc etc?
Is the time the same speed if at a different solar system nearby?
With These links above, I can assume (or even conclude) that the starlight at "X" distance did not take "X" time to get here?
Regarding Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 up until the first day of creation (1:1-1:5), are all these verses inside the same day or is 1:1 different from day one creation events?
As people will try hard to figure out how to merge millions of years into the Bible have to start twisting verses to make them say what is not is not found in scripture. What you can do is twist man's Doctrines on millions of years by debating the length of time and speed of time differences?
Example:
Current claim (correct me if wrong) is universe started many billions of years ago, and yet do we have galaxies that exceed past the age of universe?
13.7 billion years.
13.5 billion years away.
(Galaxies are bigger than you think)
Different people will claim different ages on the universe as each one tries to adjust accordingly their studies on the Universe's age and possible distances of the stars and galaxies around, and forgetting or not applying the speed of light and time questions from above.
But how does this fit in the Bible and does the Bible talk about the age of the universe?
Furthermore, the Bible provides the age differences between parents and descendants1 when listing certain genealogies. From these kinds of biblical references, we know that the elapsed time between Adam and the birth of Christ was roughly 4,000 years. From other historical records, we know that Christ was born roughly 2,000 years ago. Since Adam was created on the sixth day of the creation week, we can conclude that the earth, the entire universe, and everything in it were created approximately 6,000 years ago.
There are really smart people on both sides of the argument trying to make claim that thier view is correct. So what do we do? We can test the claim directly or indirectly by testing the claims about age of Earth first or by testing the claim directly with universe questions.
If the known universe that is visible is only X amount of light years away, and they claim there is more galaxies further out, that in itself destroys the Big Bang Theory wouldn't it?
How could something go faster than the speed of light (if light is the max we can go) to make gain the distance needed for the claimed galaxy outside our viewing area?
Anything that goes against the "Age of Universe Narrative", must be adjusted quickly or the Universe's age must be adjusted. This is normal for "Science", always changing with new information and hopefully not censored due to agendas.
Forces me to watch some short video explaining his opinion on what could be faster than light.
Speed of Galaxies are faster than light, but end of video says no there not.
Cutting paper, obviously not.
Two particles always opposite of each other? What gives?
This illustration is easy to understand as the object moves slower than light but each matter connects accordingly that looks like it's faster than light while the matter is different from the other matter. Did i say that right?
Shining a laser into sky and flick it looks like it traveled faster than light the distance of the flickering? Each light particle (proton) has its set destination and speed, you are not seeing the same particle as the first but always a new particle (proton).
Essentially, since its inception, the cosmos has been growing at an ever increasing rate. Cosmologists estimate that the oldest photons that we can observe have traveled a distance of 45-47 billion light-years since the Big Bang. That means that our observable universe is some 93 billion light-years wide (give or take a few light-years).
There are many forms of light, and all go the same speed, but what goes faster than light?
Right now, in a 13.8 billion year old Universe, our current visibility limit is 46 billion light-years.
We will never be able to see anything close to those extraordinary distances. The future visibility limit will take us to distances that are presently 61 billion light-years away, but no farther. It will reveal slightly more than twice the volume of the Universe we can observe today. The unobservable Universe, on the other hand, must be at least 23 trillion light years in diameter, and contain a volume of space that’s over 15 million times as large as the volume we can observe.
So from the time of the claimed "Big Bang", particles and mass (etc) were going faster than the speed of light along with the Universe's assumed size was also growing faster than light and faster than exploding particles, and while the supposedly long time frame, the space in-between objects was also growing and stretching. This is a wild claim with known knowledge of the universe.
Wouldn't black holes and massive stars be trying to suck in the stretching universe by its great gravitational force along with everything else that has gravitational force?
Dark matter is another question which many are confused about, even the satanic Cern is still confused right now but they are trying.
Unveiling of statue of The Nataraj "Dance of the Lord Shiva"
Oh how wonderful and great is Lord ShivAwwCrapp.
You figure out for yourself the Cern's opening day celebration in Switzerland. Don't take 1 guy's opinion of the celebration without at least trying to search more about it or why the people were doing such a thing.
Besides the satanic worship of Cern, let's get back to topic. Beginning of universe is and continues to grow faster than light speed and this has to be the only answer that explains how there are galaxies further out than the actual age of the universe?
But also, since light can bend by gravitational forces, the assumption of size of universe is only an assumption. Since a star on your left (let's say left of view), can be shown to a different direction by the time light comes to you right?
And so since "Science" can't make a good assessment or judgement on this topic as of yet, should we rely on Biblical Scriptures over man's opinions?
He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also he has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from the beginning (Ecclesiastes 3:11, emphasis added)
We again want to emphasize that the age of the earth is not the main issue in the Bible/science debate; it is chance versus design. Old Testament authority Ronald Youngblood offers a fitting conclusion:
No one knows for certain, of course, when the beginning was. But the Old Testament is far more interested in the fact of creation than the time of creation, and the simple truth that God's creative activity took place during an indeterminate time known as "the beginning" was joyfully celebrated by poet (Ps. 102.25) and prophet (Isa. 40:21) alike (Ronald Youngblood, How It All Began, Ventura, California: Regal Books, 1980, p. 22).
There are many links out there, and nobody knows the age of the universe, but those who believe in the words in the Bible have a closer guess than those who believe in astronomy.
And what about the age of Earth? The old rocks? Etc etc? Wouldn't the age of Earth prove that Earth isn't young?
This question depends mostly on who you listen to for information as each side claims to thier personal beliefs and agenda.
Introduction: The Bible (Genesis 6–9) describes a worldwide flood (the Noachian Flood) covering even the highest mountains of the earth and the construction of a huge boat (a rectangular box-like craft) that transported animals, at least two of a kind of all land animals on the earth. The Qur'an (Suras 11 and 71) has almost a duplicate story with a similar huge boat that transported animals and a worldwide flood. In addition two older stories exist in ancient Babylonian epics that describe a huge flood. One is the Epic of Gilgamesh, describing a flood on the Euphrates River (Academy of Ancient Texts nd). The other is the Epic of Atrahasis, which has a huge flood on the Tigris River (Byers nd).
Now this is real funny, how NCSE went straight to one of the many many many Qurans in beginning of webpage. Noah, born about 4,000 years ago and these people went to a man made book written roughly about 10th century AD (after Jesus) that gets almost 100 percent everything wrong in the Bible. Even the death of Jesus story in the Quran claims Jesus never died but was replaced by another human as Allah deceived everyone into thinking Jesus really died. This means, according to the many many many Qurans and Hadiths that Allah created Christianity, and the Muslims are commanded to kill the Christians.
Why would Allah command Muslims to kill a group which he created (according to the many many Qurans and Hadiths)???
According to this verse, Allah created Christianity? Followers of Jesus and his resurrection?
This is just 1 problem with the satanic many Qurans and Hadiths.
With a platform with ability and agenda to manipulate Gov't political parties towards thier agenda means what to you? Yes, there has been much manipulation by all parties, all people of many backgrounds and Religious agendas, but what we see in the future is a 1 Global economy, a New World Order, 1 World Currency, ... what we also see is World Economic Forum (WEF) etc etc trying to do what they know best, keep the power and "Authority" within their own group(s) regardless of facts.
But what is truth? (John18:38)
When scientists can be bought and sold like a slave, would this scientist make any claims against his owner? Of course not, but us, the little guys, how are we to know what is truth? And so as an Ex-Atheist I used to be, I wasn't really sure of anything but "Science", until, I tried to debunk the book of Daniel.
This journey has led me to believe that there is something, some force out there that does know the future and wanted us to know a little piece of our future as well. Tho Daniel is just 1 book of many found inside the Bible, how does Daniel give "Authority" to other books?
Simply stated if possible, anything brought to you by man can be debated constantly and disproven over time as new information surfaces, but the Bible is written and has not been changed cept by translation errors that might be seen? Thru time, the Bible has not changed much in the message presented to us, even thru persecution when the New Testament wasn't even written yet cept on cheap leaves and cloth and maybe even some leather depending on who wrote their little piece during the time of Jesus and the rest of the 1rst century. Even the Old Testament survives its long journey thru time.
Man's ideas and opinions are ever changing, but the Bible stays the same but interpretation may differ.
Which is why we must constantly go back to the Bible for "Final Authority" on scripture and not Man's Doctrines or, ... "Preconceived Ideas".
This video, Ivor Myers makes a good connection that gives good merit to other books in the Bible as time is unfolding for humans on Earth and prophecy was being fulfilled. So whether you believe in Millions and Billions of years or not, prophecy is something that no man is able to do accurately. In fact, man can barely predict tomorrow's weather 😂.
How is a simple human able to predict "Over" 2300 years?
This for me gives merit and creditability an even "Authority" to the entity that gave man future predictions which came true. Many people rely on Jesus and His resurrection, which is good but during the last days when "Fake Jesus" walks upon us, he also will be raising the dead kinda. Demons will be mimicking your dead loved one trying to make you believe that "Fake Jesus" is God while he issues the death decree to all who refuse to worship the "Fake Jesus".
3 things to know about "Fake Jesus" and what Bible says is:
"Fire From God" devours the wicked. Not God telling us to kill humans. (Rev 20:9)
And Jesus will not touch a defiled Earth until after the cleansing with "Fire". (Mal 4:3)
Only God can raise the dead and these dead are lifted up into the air to meet Jesus and the left alive righteous are "Caught up with them" into the air.
These 3 things you can be sure of that the devil doesn't want you to know.
“ ‘The wicked ... shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this,’ says the Lord of hosts” (Malachi 4:3).
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: [17]Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. [18]Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
"Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:23, 24).
Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [2]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
"And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven". (Acts 1:9-9-11)
More can be said about when Jesus comes and much more can be said about prophecy, but I encourage all to read for yourselves and take the challenge God gives us:
1 Kings 18:21-4 If Baal is god, follow him; If the Lord is God, follow Him. (Paraphrased)
God's Challenge:
Isaiah 41:21-23 Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob. (22) Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come. (23) Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
If Atheism is true, let man show the future and follow him. If God be God, and He is able to produce the future, then follow Him (Paraphrased).
And so the question arises: What are we to believe?
Man's Doctrines changes with each man and man has no set foundation or set standard of laws/rules. Each man/nation determines everything. Even in a futuristic Star Trek, war is the future as each New Order tries to claim new territory and create their own "Science" and their own laws and the population is then forced to obey the new "Right and Wrong".
Example:
We all know that child sex is wrong, for many centuries since the beginning we all knew this as a fact, but certain societies tried desperately to make child sex legal.
Children were used and abused many times over for a long time, and those that survived had to live life with that pain. But the Bible tells us to not do this, but Evolution means we all just animals and so why not do it?
Bible or Evolution?
Animals do it right? And so what is wrong with child sex?
Alot more can be said about this topic, but I'll just leave my Aisha Research here for anyone willing to browse more on this disgusting topic. It's not alot, just some simple videos I made.
But what would you do (Or can you do) when child sex becomes legal in your country? Is it "Science" because man says so? Even tho this is kinda off topic, it serves a purpose as man will make anything look good and have majority of people follow.
But math is universal is it?
Just go down the list, lol.
So what I am saying is that man can change man's Doctrines, and the Bible remains the same tho might be translated differently, and many peopleteach differently, we need to study the Bible and translation differences to see how the meaning changes and so we can spot a bad translation when man tries to change the Bible or teachings from the Bible.
This is about prophecy, but when concerning translations, we must read and compare and study and not blindly believing in whatever man says or our own "PreConceived Ideas".
What about Carbon 14?
Carbon 14 is ok on the short scale, but not for longer ages.
And so in conclusion: Man does not know the age of Earth or the Universe but tries to make "Edumacated" guesses to get majority of people on board with this ideology, this Doctrine.
During this "Fake Plandemic" (aka "Scamdemic"), alot of information has been leaked out and brought into light for many to see, and most people refuse to believe that they have been or might of been lied to by other people specifically scientists and Gov't.
People all thru time rather believe in a lie than truth because a lie tastes sweet as the truth taste bitter, but over time when we learn to accept truth, it does get sweeter as our love for truth enhances and becomes the thing we desire the most.
The Bible must be our "Final Authority" before the world tries to manipulate us into believing in a lie funded by the Gov't who's controlled by satan.
And so in summary I ask:
By who's "Authority" gives the age of Earth or Universe when that information can change quickly for any reason and not always because of "New Information"?
The information we have learned about Vaxxines has new evidence raised about the dangers of Vaxxines thanks to people and groups like:
thetruthaboutvaccines.com / Thetruthaboutcancer.com and https://childrenshealthdefense.org and many others.
Much information has been leaked out about this "Fake Plandemic" and many people are seeing exactly how easy it is to "Buy" a so called scientist or doctor to say whatever the "Sponser" wants them to say.
When people have been told for roughly 1400 years that there has only been 1 Quran, and they have to shoot down anyone who says otherwise means what to you?
When a man named Jesus was born and died and rose again was part of history and now there are people claiming Jesus never existed means what to you?
The information brought to you by man can be debated (as it has been for ages) and changed depending on Gov't authorities and if they allow this new information to spread. Think about the water powered engine. If I am able to find out that the methods used for dating Earth can be incorrect, what does that say about the methods used for the Universe?
Isaiah 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
Revelation 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
God made the heavens and the Earth and all things visible and invisible and God has given us prophets throughout time and allowed us to even write down prophesies for those in ages to come to read and learn and investigate so that when it comes to pass that we must not be afraid cause God has told us beforehand before it happened.
For the prophesies is why I believe, and gives credit and "Authority" to the Bible and helps me learn about God so that I can find Jesus and place my trust in Him who created me so that when the Bible becomes illegal, I may still have Jesus in my heart and the Holy Spirit to guide me. So while man argues with man about man made things, I can lean on Jesus for truth and rest and Salvation.
The devil has been fighting against God even before he was casted out of heaven. And yes, there was a time when there was heaven on Earth.
Ezekiel 28:16 “By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire".
What was Lucifer selling/Merchandising???
* And so who/what is your "Final Authority"??? Man or Bible?
I hope this helps those in thier faith in Jesus, and raises questions for all people to constantly keep asking and never stop asking questions.
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